I like the looks from the outside, but the inside just seems too cluttered for my liking. Also, I just can't see myself going back to a case without a slide out motherboard tray. It seems like they tried to somewhat copy the Lian Li V series cases, but forgot a few things.

that's really sad. i love my slk3700amb antec case. i'm kind of disappointed in antec.

You recommended the Cooler Mater Wavemaster over this one, but that case uses 80mm fans and looks to have somewhat restricted front air intake.
I want to buy a new case in that range/style area. I was looking at getting the P180 until I read your review. The Wavemaster sure looks like a viable option, but is that the case you would recommend the most for that market area, or did you just offer it up as one possible alternative?

well, in my review i said that the wavemaster doesn't have as many features (including silence), but overall it is a higher quality case. if you just want the features, i suppose the p180 is the better deal, but you need to be aware of the problems i stated in the review. it's not a bad case, just isn't as good as i would expect from antec in the quality department - i had too many problems with too many of those features.

the wavemaster could be turned into a pretty quiet case if you take the effort to replace all the fans with quieter ones and have all silent components.

i think to get the quality we look for in cases with the featureset you see in the p180, you'd have to look towards cases from the likes of Lian-Li. Of course, that's a whole different price point.

what i recommend you do is go back to my p180 review and read closely each of the pages and jot down the issues i mention which you are concerned about. don't just skip to the conclusion and take my final recommendation as the law, you may not care that much about the individual issues i experienced.

Thanks, I did read through the entire article but I'll look through it again. They both look like pretty good cases I just need to make up my mind about what I want.

have a look at these fans if you're going for something quiet ^_^

that's an australian store but i'm certain you can get them elsewhere

http://www.pccasegear.com/category139_1.htm

silenx, pfft.

just go with panaflo or papst. :)

SilenX 80mm - 28CFM at 14dBA
Papst 80mm - 26CFM at 19dBA
Panaflo 80mm (low speed) - 24CFM at 21dBA

you can also get the SilenX in red blue or green led at the same specs...

just because a manufacturer lists something in the specs doesn't mean it is true. every manufacturer has the right to test their products with some degree of freedom. they may have measured sound from further away etc.

papst and panaflo are just really well known for their quality and silence - though they also make some louder high-airflow fans too.

for that matter, nexus also makes some really quiet fans i think. silenx ones may be silent, they're just not as well known as the two i mentioned.