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Palm Tungsten E
 
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Richard Poelling
Kurtis
Palm
Jan. 6, 2004
Software

Obviously, a PDA is only as good as the software installed on it. Since I have neither the time nor ability to go through the thousands of titles offered, I will go over what is included with the basic installation CD. I must admit that I was very impressed with the software selection that was shipped with the Tungsten E. If you want to purchase additional software, there are thousands of titles available: everything from e-books to car maintenance schedules. Of course, you can't mention a PDA without considering the thousands of games that are also available for the Palm OS. Nothing beats a rousing good game of IR Pong with a friend either. It's the simple things in life that make me happy.

Besides the standard calendar, notepad, memo pad, and calculator that are all part of the Palm OS, the installation CD contained the necessary files to install a document reader, Adobe acrobat reader, e- book reader, video player, printing program, mobile database program, a version of RealOne, the car game "War," along with the synchronization software for the Palm OS.

Adobe Acrobat Reader for Palm OS

Everyone is familiar with the Adobe Acrobat file format. You almost can't survive without the reader installed on your computer these days. Anyone who reads any type of technical documentation knows that most of it comes in PDF format. But what do you do if you want to take these documents with you? The answer comes in the form of the Acrobat Reader for the Palm OS. This small program will allow you to take PDF files with you for reading on the go. After a straightforward installation, you just drag your PDF document into a window, and after the next synchronization, you will have access to it. The reader works better with some PDF files than others, but size did not seem to be a problem. I had no problem loading in a 52 page governmental report on the device. Some PDF files work better than others. I have found some that convert all the pages into images such that they are almost impossible to read, while others have no problem whatsoever. The Tungsten E did seem to have to do a lot of thinking when scrolling through the PDF file, but I am uncertain if that was the limitation of the reader or the processor. Either way, it was very frustrating to be pushing the down Dutton and have nothing happen.

DataVis Documents to Go

The Documents To Go software is what enables the viewing of Excel, Word and PowerPoint files. The installation is also very easy and sets up a synchronization point for your files. Files that you want to include on your PDA can be dragged into the program window. Information such as document location, format, size, name, and category can all be easily seen at a glance. From the PDA, you can also create new files that will automatically be synchronized into your "My Documents" folder on your local machine. For all formats, you are able to choose various amounts of "zoom" from three choices of small, medium, and large. Even the small text is easily readable for all file formats, thanks to the wonderful TFT display on the Tungsten E. I was surprised to find that I could convert a 56 slide 8 MB Powerpoint presentation onto the PDA very easily, and it only took up 74k on the PDA itself. I was also able to load a WordPerfect file into the program. Some formatting was off, but document was mostly intact and readable. I will say that lots of editing can be very tedious using a PDA, which pretty much leaves viewing and minor edits. It is nice to know that you can have access to large documents at the touch of a button. A 16 page quarterly report with tables and pictures was no problem for the Tungsten E.

Kinoma Player

The Kinoma player is a video player for the Palm OS. What I can say about this software was that it worked. I was able to load some video onto the Tungsten and play it. The major drawback to this is that it will suck up memory VERY quickly. A short 3 minute video clip can consume as much as 14 MB of the Tungsten's 28.8 MB usable memory. I am sure there are much better uses for your PDA's memory than video, but then again you can always add on memory in the expansion slot.

RealOne Mobile Player

The Tungsten E included the RealOne player, unfortunately it only works with an expansion card so I was unable to test it out. I personally dislike when companies list features that are not available straight out of the box.

Palm PIM Applications

Finally this brings us to the heart of the Palm OS. This is what made a PDA the thing to have several years ago. I am referring to the built-in functionality of the calendar, address book, tasks list, and notepad. This functionality is very important to the target audience that most PDA's are aimed, the business user. It makes no difference, whether you are using a $79 PDA or a $700 PDA. You want access to you email, contacts and calendar any time, anywhere.

For most business users, they will have already set up Outlook to manage their email, calendar, etc. If you are like me, once these are set up, you don't want to change them. Getting all of my addresses into the Tungsten was very easy. After installing the Outlook conduits, a single synchronization was all it took to fully populate the PDA. After the synchronization, your address book, calendar, task list, and notepad should all be the same as your Outlook setup. Any changes that are made will then be synchronized between the desktop and the PDA. If for some reason you are not a user of Outlook, you are able to use the Palm Desktop which has all the same functionality such as a calendar and address book. It is possible to synchronize your PDA to multiple machines. I was able to sync the Tungsten with both my work machine and my home computer. This can sometimes lead to duplication of items, but once these are sorted out, everything ran smoothly.

I would like to point out that I was not really fond of the calendar display. To view a weeks worth of items, it is hard to tell which item goes with which day. It would be very easy to do a quick glance at your schedule and get meetings confused. It pretty much comes down to formatting and location. Does the day/time go above or below the event? You can also switch between the day/week/month view by pressing the calendar button.

 
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57 User Comments
1 - Posted by BP487 on January 7, 2004 - 7:21 pm

Nice Review :)

I decided to get an HP1945 Pocket PC. I have to say that I think I use it more as a newspaper (AvantGo) and gaming machine than I do to take notes and write down appointments 8).

2 - Posted by Rich on January 8, 2004 - 9:16 am

I have always found that taking notes on PDA's is a bit cumbersome, although I haven't done it with the newer version of the Graffiti writing language. I am a big fan of Avantgo too, next best thing to having an internet enabled device.

3 - Posted by Andic on January 27, 2004 - 3:52 pm

I have been hovering for over a week trying to decide whether to buy this. Then I stumbled across this review on Google. Giving the good and bad points clearly and non-techie, it has given me the confidence to buy from Amazon.co.uk without going to a local shop to examine it (if they let you). The reviewer really knew his/her stuff.This review really 'opened the box' for me. I wanted an item that would save me carrying my laptop on occasion. This is the one. Thanks very much. I'm off to 'Add to basket' at Amazon now.

4 - Posted by Guest on January 30, 2004 - 1:17 pm

Keyboard Purchase? Thanks for comment back, would welcome review comment on best keyboard to go with this model which I have now ordered thanks to Rich's Review.

5 - Posted by Guest on January 31, 2004 - 6:45 pm

great tool

6 - Posted by sed227 on February 3, 2004 - 11:50 am

thanks for the review. I don't venture often into the tech world so it was very helpful. I see that the Tungsten E includes a software called RealOne for MP3 listening (which I also see that you have to buy an expansion card for, blah). Is there a handheld which uses Palm software which also includes iTunes and is of good sound quality for MP3 listening? Maybe I don't want to get a new handheld AND and ipod, wouldn't it be great to just get one...

7 - Posted by Guest on February 10, 2004 - 4:00 pm

I just bought one last week and it handled the 256 MB SD card just fine. I downloaded a patch for large cards from the palm site.

I used real player to reduce the quality to 64 kps and they sound awesome..

8 - Posted by Guest on February 10, 2004 - 7:48 pm

guess I forgot to put in that the MP3 sounded awesome... I have more than 100 files on there!

9 - Posted by lifesabeach on February 11, 2004 - 8:05 pm

I am looking at PDAs and really interested in this one. It does not, however, appear to have a voice recorder. What do you recommend?
Cynthia

10 - Posted by Jim on February 23, 2004 - 10:29 pm

After 97 days my Palm Tungsten e battery died and could not be charged eithr by the charger or through the USB cable. Palm wanted $125 to repair it. After a lot of haggling, I got them to repair it under warranty (the warranty is only 90 days) The repaired unit they sent me did not work. I sent it back and I am on my 3rd unit. It looks like it does not work either.

I am very disappointed with the reliability of thee units and not impressed that the user cannot replace the battery. I guess I will continue to use my Palm III for a while longer. It has been going for over 5 years without a problem.

Jim

11 - Posted by krissydube on February 24, 2004 - 11:48 am

I was interested in buying a Tungsten E for my boyfriend but am unsure if I should go with that palm pilot or the very similar (atleast to me) Sony Clie PEGTJ27/UKIT1. My boyfriend said he wanted one from either brand, and I want it to be a little bit of a surprise and not ask him too many questions about the 2. If you know anything about the Sony Clie, which do u think is better, which one would work better for a college student and do they both surf the net as well as take pictures? Thanks

12 - Posted by centeno70 on March 8, 2004 - 1:40 pm

Well, Rich I want to thank you. You have helped me decide which PDA to buy. Not only that, but i have found it at an unheard of price. I won't mention it here because (A) know one else can buy from this source again and (B) i'm happy and i'd like to stay that way.

One question though, I realize i'm going to need some additional memory. I really don't know much about the cards and there seem to be a few different types. Sony has the Memory Stick and SanDisk has Memory, Compact Flash and Secure Digital Cards. What are the differences? Which one is usable w/my PDA? And which is a more reliable, quality inexpensive card in say 256MB - aside from the PalmOne Brand cards?

If the price difference is insignificant and the quality is substandard, i'd rather pay extra for the Palm Brand.

Great website and keep up the good work.

13 - Posted by SimBrendon on March 8, 2004 - 6:12 pm

Rich, when you say "no cradle" for the Tungsten E, does that mean that a cradle didn't come WITH the model, or that there is NO cradle designed for this model? I like what I am reading about the Tungsten E, but I have really enjoyed the cradle with other Palm handhelds. Let me know!

ps. Any suggestions for websites with more screenshots, esp, the calendar and address book functions? Palm has a few, but not as many as I'd like to see. Thanks!

14 - Posted by Guest on March 26, 2004 - 12:00 pm

Does anyone have information about software that makes word perfect work on a Tungsten E Thanks Bob Salzman

15 - Posted by Guest on April 5, 2004 - 4:18 pm

Rich, I'm interested to know if you've given up the "All Mighty Handspring" for something else? If so what is it?
I've been running a Visor Deluxe for many years and was just given the Tungsten E as a gift.. so far so good, except I can't charge it up when travelling (like popping out the batteries one at a time) and the screen makes a strange humming sound. I also miss the cradle!

Thanks!
Caro (crazy_caro at hotmail dot com)

16 - Posted by Guest on April 7, 2004 - 4:26 pm

I have been using the palm 3x for the last 4 years and want to upgrade. I was a bit concerned that you said the Tungsten e crashed a number of times as this has never happened with my 3x. Also is it simple to transfer all my contacts to the the new palm?

17 - Posted by Guest on April 26, 2004 - 10:21 am

Can the T|E be recharged via the USB connection?

18 - Posted by Guest on May 12, 2004 - 5:15 am

Thanks for your objective reviews Rich. I read both the E and the T3 review and the E definitely looked what the doc ordered. All good so far? Then I bumped into a T3 a colleague has and Im hooked! There is something about holding and using a device that printed matter cannot substitute! Now, Im puzzled. Your review points out some flaws in the E but I also know that I really dont need the big screen or the add-ins enough to pay double the price of an E! Help! What should I buy??!!

19 - Posted by Guest on May 19, 2004 - 2:16 pm

Thanks again Rich. On further evaluation of the T3, a definite plus is the expandable memory thru SD cards, something the E doesnt give me. What that means is that I need not worry about more and more getting into my PDA. I know youre gonna remind me that what they give in the PDA is probably good enough for the normal user ...... but still. And what about the ironical tenet of staying at the cutting edge of technology in the fast changing world of technology?!

20 - Posted by Guest on May 20, 2004 - 10:40 pm

Thanks for your site, it helped me to choose the Tunsten E as the pda for me. However one week after I bought the unit it quit working. Palm tells me to return it to the retailer that I bought it from but I bought it new in the sealed container off from ebay. Did I just buy a $170 dollar paper weight or is their any way to get this thing replaced? Thanks

21 - Posted by Guest on August 15, 2004 - 8:30 pm

How reliable are these things?

Everything I have heard about the T/E is outstanding and just what I want.... except that... once in a while I hear an awful story about how someone's T/E had a catastrophic error within the first four months or so of ownership. If I buy a PDA I would like to have it last at LEAST two years without having to pay $125 to have its battery replaced or to have it repaired! If this *was* the case, you may as well say that the T/E costs over $300.oo.... assuming that it *only* died once during those two years...

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO HAS OWNED/USED A TUNGSTEN E FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS WITHOUT ANY MAJOR PROBLEMS???

22 - Posted by Guest on September 16, 2004 - 4:21 pm

yeh. i have had a tungsten e for about 8 months. i've had the battery go flat on me once, and a "near incident" of the same thing once. i had left it uncharged for about a week unused after the battery indicator was at about 1/3 mark. having used a visor and palm v before, that's just poor in comparison! i am now searching to see if i should be charging often or if my unit is somehow defective with a leak somewhere.

other than that and gripes about how easily the case scratches (even the palm-supplied cover has marred the surface), the t/e is great.

23 - Posted by Milga1 on October 6, 2004 - 1:41 pm

I have a new Tungsten E, but I can't find the calculator! I really like having that....what did I do wrong, and how can I get a calculator? Does this thing even come with one? HELP!

24 - Posted by Milga1 on October 6, 2004 - 1:59 pm

Thanks for the rapid response! However, I am not able to find it, and neither are the guys at Office Max where I bought it. I have used Palm Vx in the past and loved it. Where oh where is the calculator?? Should I erase everything and start over, or just go to another product? I need help...thanks again...please.

25 - Posted by Guest on October 13, 2004 - 9:40 pm

My Tungsten E has glitch in the sound every 5 seconds. I have confirmation from Palm that this is a known issue, but they say that since the Tungsten E is an entry-level product, I should be willing to accept this. Apparently not all units have this issue, but many of them do. I was told by corporate customer support that this is not a defect because the presence of sound glitches is not a part of the product performance specification.

26 - Posted by k94536 on November 6, 2004 - 7:06 pm

the calculator is called "powerOne™ personal calculator"
you install it i think on first hot-sync if you dont have it i can try to help you.

27 - Posted by k94536 on November 6, 2004 - 7:13 pm

i just found the PRC called "power one_personal.prc"
and it is in my backup directory

28 - Posted by k94536 on November 6, 2004 - 7:21 pm

well now this sucks no hot link to send a e-mail from this page well i think i have to go use my hush account if i can help e me - maiga1 - @ "auto75634@hush.ai

29 - Posted by carlo on November 19, 2004 - 9:59 pm

i'm planning to buy a tungsten e..does it have a usb port that will enable me to use a flash drive memory stick..are there applications that will require faster processor (faster than 126 MHz) which will make my tungsten e useless..pls comment..thanks

30 - Posted by snjustice on November 20, 2004 - 1:09 pm

I purchased my Tungsten E on ebay for $140 in June. I absolutely loved using it. However, yesterday it died. One minute it worked fine, the next it was dead. I had read about this happening to a few people who had written in to various review sites but I didn't think it would happen to me. I am now contemplating buying another brand new one from Circuit City and buying the protection plan for 29.99. I really don't want to buy another much more expensive pda since this one had everything I really needed. Although if I knew I could get something the same slim size with comparable screen clarity that came with a better chance at longevity I would be willing to go as high $300. Anyone have any suggestions/opinions?

31 - Posted by vradduri on December 23, 2004 - 11:13 am

My tungston e does not have the calculator. I bought it on e-bay. May be some one deleatetd it. But the Pda definitely does not have it now. Is there any way of reinstaling it. Thanks

32 - Posted by vradduri on December 23, 2004 - 2:03 pm

Thanks for prompt reply. I sure appreciate it. I read previous comments and some one else indeed had the same problem. How would I get back to factory default? I tried resetting the pda. I can only do a soft reset. I guess I do not know how to do a hard reset on Tungten e.
Finally what is this' power one personal prc' and where would I find it. Thanks again.

33 - Posted by vradduri on December 24, 2004 - 1:44 pm

Thanks I figuered out how to 'hard sink' after realizing that the 'Navigation button' is infact two buttons. It is incredible that I did not relize it before. The outer rim is a diffrent button, the top of which can be used as 'up button'. I did 'hard sink' after hard reset and I still do not have the calculator. Where is this back up directory and how would I get to it. Could some one help me please.

34 - Posted by vradduri on December 24, 2004 - 3:22 pm

Kurtis Thank you very much for the help and suppport.
I found the calculator. It is diffrent from the default one, but it works the same. It is in the'software essentials' on Tungsten E Cd.It is called 'power one personal'. Thanks again Have a very merry & happy holidays.

35 - Posted by graham21 on January 1, 2005 - 8:27 pm

Thanks for the interesting review and comments. I have a Tungsten T, but since I purchased it has had an intermittent fault which means I have to reset the pointer every day or two. It has had this fault more or less since I had it, but I fell foul of Palm not having a warranty that lasts the usual 12 months. Now it stops responding to all user input via the screen, every few days or so. I am thinking of throwing away my Tungsten T away, and buying a Tungsten E. But is the E likely to be any more reliable?

36 - Posted by stevec on January 3, 2005 - 11:08 am

I am having problem with Notepad function. Towards the top of the screen, the line appears higher than the stylus actually makes contact. At the bottom of the screen, the line appears lower than my stylus makes contact. Sometimes I get a jagged line appear that I have to "erase". Any ideas? I already tried the digitizer.

37 - Posted by Guest on January 5, 2005 - 3:12 pm

I have had my Tungsten E for over a year and have recently experienced major hot sync problems with the datebook (I do not sync with my Outlook account). When I hot sync-ed with "handheld overwrites pc," much of the data from my handheld was removed, and I received a log message saying,"Some handheld records were not copied to your PC. Your computer may be full or you may have reached the maximum allowed records on the desktop. To correct this situation, delete some records and perform a HotSync operation again." However, most of the records are no longer there, so how can it be at max capacity??!! I'd backed up the hh on a memory card, but when I "restore," it says that the version of my back-up is older than the one on the hh, and when I instruct it to overwrite the old with the new, a message explains it can't be done.
At the moment, I'm extremely frustrated because I'm relying on this PDA for my calendar and addresses, and not only are data lost (can someone tell me how to recover lost data??), but it appears that the hotsync operation is malfunctioning. I'm afraid to use it!

38 - Posted by Guest on January 9, 2005 - 9:18 pm

I have a Tungsten E. Somehow a button was pushed in my purse causing the light to stay on (apparently) and my power ran out. Dead. I plugged it into the AC charger, and when it powered back up, I realized I had lost anything. Does this mean that if the battery ever runs out again, I will again lose everything? (My checkbook was not backed up to my desktop, so this is a real big problem)

Any advice would be appreciated!

Becky

39 - Posted by Guest on January 21, 2005 - 3:31 am

Does my Tungsten E have a battery level indicator? I see a battery at the top of the screen but it never seems to change, or appear anything but full, and then I'll suddenly get a message that says I'm at low power and may lose my data if i don't recharge. Should I be seeing a level indicator showing 1/2 full or 1full?

40 - Posted by Guest on February 1, 2005 - 8:52 am

Greetings. I need to know if the TungstenE has multilingual options. You know, like setting a language preference, as is possible with a mobile phone. Mine seems to use only English. I have searched the handbook in vain. Can someone assist please?

41 - Posted by Guest on February 24, 2005 - 8:51 am

This thread - and the Review that started it off - seem so full of good sense, I hope you won't mind if I ask for some advice.
I'm probably one of the last people in the world to still be using a Psion 3c, but this is now getting extremely old and vulnerable and I probably need to buy a PDA before decades of contacts etc simply disappear (yes, they are backed up, but I doubt whether anything other than a Psion can play a Psion flashcard).
So - which PDA ? As a Mac owner, it looks like a Palm's the best (only ?) choice - but should it be the Tungsten E or T3 ? Is it worth waiting for the E2 ? Or the Zire 31/71/72 ?
Generally speaking, I use my Psion for it's diary function, plus contacts and the spread sheets and calculator. The 'World' function (listing telephone codes) is pretty useful, but I rarely use the Word or Jotter functions.
I think Bluetooth would be useful to transfer info to my PowerBook. Or is a USB HotSynch adequate ?
Actually...checking the Psion as I write this, it actually IS pretty well specced !
I don't want to spend more than £200 (that's around $350).
So many questions - but any ideas anybody ?
Thanks in advance
David (from England)

42 - Posted by Kahuna on March 3, 2005 - 7:43 pm

I just pick one up for use with my job at work. (Will use for addresses, phone #'s, scheduling, etc.)

43 - Posted by SlipSand on March 4, 2005 - 6:13 pm

Those are worth every penny. :P

44 - Posted by Rich on March 4, 2005 - 8:33 pm

For the price, the Tungsten E can't be beat. Now thier other PDA's, that is another story.

45 - Posted by Kahuna on March 5, 2005 - 11:05 am

I like this BatteryGraph program (Shareware) for monitoring battery status on a Palm OS compatible device. When ever you switch on or off your PDA the program will log the current battery status.

46 - Posted by PennyManDeux on March 6, 2005 - 4:10 pm

Is that something you have to install or does it come on the Palms?

47 - Posted by Kahuna on March 6, 2005 - 4:30 pm

It's shareware, you must download and install it.

48 - Posted by Guest on March 20, 2005 - 3:08 pm

Office Depot has a $100 rebate on the Tungsten E right now (for 3 days) if anybody is interested.

49 - Posted by bobcav on March 27, 2005 - 9:49 am

I bought my wife one for Christmas but had no idea that this was as finicky as it is. Battery now dead and she sits with a piece of s... and some expensive nursing programs. Should have visited this board sooner.

50 - Posted by Guest on March 31, 2005 - 5:39 pm

Hey,

I got a new Tungsten E with a hard case and NoviiRemote bundled from best buy in Canada for 254 and change. It was an open item, and it was funny because when I got it was still charged and had someones contacts still in it, but I performed a Hard Reset to clear it and reset the HotSync ID, blah blah blah.

I got it March 10th and have so far had no real problems that weren't my fault (old programs, buggy freeware). However, I have crashed it several times and recently when I tried to open a PDOC (which is the 911 Commission reported I downloaded and it is about 1.1 megs) in WordToGo and it proceeded to stall halfway through opening the file. I did have only about 2 megs of free space which I initially though may have caused the crash but I was able to repeat the problem with a fresh install of only WordToGo after a hard reset.

What was worse was the only thing I could do after waiting an hour for it to move one pixel in the progress bar was reset with the pin hole. After the reset however, I found that my memory was comepletely reset (as if I had hard reset by holding the power button down and then pressing up). Nasy bug that I figure has something to with the way DatViz is creating a working copy of a file to edit in WordToGo.

Also I've noticed that reducing the screen brightness can greatly increase the battery time as well as plugging in the charger unit whenever you can or even the USB which can "trickle charge" the batteries when you turn the power off. Useful in the car with the mobility kit I also purchased which has a 12volt car adapter that uses the USB port (interesting).

Beware of old applications since many, even OS4 programs, can possibly be incompatible, otherwise there are tons of great OS5 apps available. The WIFI card is awesome and using my LAN, I have been able to use Email, WebBrowser, FTP program, ICQ chat program, telnet, SSH, portscanner, all working fast and perfectly through the WIFI connection.

I noticed several comments in reviews on the web, not specifically this one, that the Infra Red port is apparently weak. I mentioned my unit came bundled with the awesome program NoviiRemote. This program almost sold me on the unit when I saw it in the store. This program can learn any remote there is that uses Infra Red, which means most any remote. I tell you, being able walk into bars and change the channels or stores displays, peoples satellites receiver, and PVR's, or A/V stereo's. If a template for a remote doesn't exist yet, all you need is the remote itself and you can one-by-one program every funtion to a button in NoviiRemote. Truly great software.

And as far as Infra Red strength is concerned I have no problem controlling most devices at a distance of about 3 metres or 15 feet. Some devices are "less receptive" than others and I have been unable to program only one remote function, the power button on some RCA remotes. This may have to do with the way NoviiRemote learns IR signals but it generally works great.

All in all I have had a great experience so far with my Palm Tungsten E. The included software is excellent, and the available software on the Internet and on SD cards is another big purchase point. I can't see why someone wouldn't recommend the Tungsten E unless you really want to use it as a cellphone then you may consider more expensive Palm offerings. But at 299 retail in Canada this buy is a steal.

Note I purchased from Palm Store a WIFI SDIO card which was pretty pricey (about $175), and a 512 MB SD card (about $150), so bear in mind that upgrades aren't exactly cheap.

Chris M
cm@earthshiprecords.com

51 - Posted by Guest on April 21, 2005 - 12:27 pm

Update to my previous comments:

Well,

It seem sPalm has just introduced a new Tungsten|E2...

Damnit, I just boouht the E!!!

Oh well, I may see if I can return this one and get the newer T|E2 since it has flash meory now and will not lose your data when it runs out of power. Swee-eet!

And it has built in bluetooth as well as the newer Palm OS 5.4 instead of 5.2. And the price is the same. Way to go Palm for updgrading there best handheld, in my opinion, while not raising the price point.

I have a list of software and hardware I am using and recommend to Palm Tungsten|E users:

I use the built in Palm apps for what they are for especially the Datebook and Addres book. Versamail is awesome I think. I don't need a aprogram that puts them all together since the built in apps are fairly well integrated.

If your lucky enough to have bought a Tungsten|E with a hard case and NoviiRemote included then you already know how how cool NoviiRemote is and how vital having a hard case is.

A SD Card is absolutely necessary once you want to start really using the T|E for more than just the built in functionality. You need an SD card to do some things like listen to MP3's.

A WiFi card is useful if you have wireless network at home or work.

The mobility kit - 12 Volt car adapter, great for car trips.

Plucker - For viewing offline webpages, pdfs, pictures, docs, etc on my SD Card. Freeware.

DiddleBug - Cool notepad replacement. Freeware.

IdeaPad - Neat flow chart like program. Freeware.

DioPlayer - Plays MP3's and Wav's off the SD Card. A replacement for the included RealPalyer. I dont't like RealPlayer on my Windblow$ PC.

PilotDB - Database program. Freeware.

CryptoPad - Good encrypted memopad replacement. Freeware.

TexT - DOC editor, limited to 64k files but still useful. Freeware.

CardTXT - Edits TXT files on the SD Card. Freeware.

BigClock - Nice alarm clock and stopwatch. Freeware.

Calcul-8 - Fairly robust simple Calculator. Freeware.

SC-103PU - Another really robust Calculator. Freeware.

ChemTable - Periodic Table of Elements reference. Freeware.

Planetarium - Very good astronomy tool. Shareware.

Flags - World country flag reference. Freeware.

RJ45 - Network cable reference. Freeware.

FlyZip - Save space on the handheld using compression. Shareware.

FlyBackup - Like restore points in windows this simple program will back up your handheld to the SD Card on a schedule you set. Simple and easy to use. Shareware.

ZLauncher - Full Palm launcher replacement with many features. My personal favourite although it uses a perhaps a bit much resources. Well worth 20 dollars. Shareware.

Hi-Launcher - tried out a few launchers and found this one to be the most useful for me. Has a completely self designed menu that can be accessed from any program with an assigned hard key, silk screen button, or graffiti stroke. Shareware.

AutoExec - launches ZLauncher after a reset. Freeware.

Sleuth - Find shortcut in any program. Freeware.

Khroma - Lets you change the Palm system colors. Freeware.

Speedy - Measures the Handhelds relative performance. Freeware.

PocketC - Have't actually used it yet. Freeware.

Games - Mostly freeware but I will say I bought Bejeweled2 because I wanted something that shows off my handhelds graphics, but now I am actually addicted to the game. Other good freeware games are:

Vexed
Prison
SolFree
Bla ckJack
Giraffe - Good for learning Graffiti

For networking I have used mostly:

TriConnect
TuSSH
WifFi

Chris M
cm@earthshiprecords.com

52 - Posted by CTM420 on April 21, 2005 - 3:11 pm

Comments I made for this product review:

It seems Palm has just introduced a new Tungsten|E2...

Damnit, I just boouht the E!!!

Oh well, I may see if I can return this one and get the newer T|E2 since it has flash meory now and will not lose your data when it runs out of power. Swee-eet!

And it has built in bluetooth as well as the newer Palm OS 5.4 instead of 5.2. And the price is the same. Way to go Palm for updgrading there best handheld, in my opinion, while not raising the price point.

I have a list of software and hardware I am using and recommend to Palm Tungsten|E users:

I use the built in Palm apps for what they are for especially the Datebook and Addres book. Versamail is awesome I think. I don't need a aprogram that puts them all together since the built in apps are fairly well integrated.

If your lucky enough to have bought a Tungsten|E with a hard case and NoviiRemote included then you already know how how cool NoviiRemote is and how vital having a hard case is.

A SD Card is absolutely necessary once you want to start really using the T|E for more than just the built in functionality. You need an SD card to do some things like listen to MP3's.

A WiFi card is useful if you have wireless network at home or work.

The mobility kit - 12 Volt car adapter, great for car trips.

Plucker - For viewing offline webpages, pdfs, pictures, docs, etc on my SD Card. Freeware.

DiddleBug - Cool notepad replacement. Freeware.

IdeaPad - Neat flow chart like program. Freeware.

DioPlayer - Plays MP3's and Wav's off the SD Card. A replacement for the included RealPalyer. I dont't like RealPlayer on my Windblow$ PC.

PilotDB - Database program. Freeware.

CryptoPad - Good encrypted memopad replacement. Freeware.

TexT - DOC editor, limited to 64k files but still useful. Freeware.

CardTXT - Edits TXT files on the SD Card. Freeware.

BigClock - Nice alarm clock and stopwatch. Freeware.

Calcul-8 - Fairly robust simple Calculator. Freeware.

SC-103PU - Another really robust Calculator. Freeware.

ChemTable - Periodic Table of Elements reference. Freeware.

Planetarium - Very good astronomy tool. Shareware.

Flags - World country flag reference. Freeware.

RJ45 - Network cable reference. Freeware.

FlyZip - Save space on the handheld using compression. Shareware.

FlyBackup - Like restore points in windows this simple program will back up your handheld to the SD Card on a schedule you set. Simple and easy to use. Shareware.

ZLauncher - Full Palm launcher replacement with many features. My personal favourite although it uses a perhaps a bit much resources. Well worth 20 dollars. Shareware.

Hi-Launcher - tried out a few launchers and found this one to be the most useful for me. Has a completely self designed menu that can be accessed from any program with an assigned hard key, silk screen button, or graffiti stroke. Shareware.

AutoExec - launches ZLauncher after a reset. Freeware.

Sleuth - Find shortcut in any program. Freeware.

Khroma - Lets you change the Palm system colors. Freeware.

Speedy - Measures the Handhelds relative performance. Freeware.

PocketC - Have't actually used it yet. Freeware.

Games - Mostly freeware but I will say I bought Bejeweled2 because I wanted something that shows off my handhelds graphics, but now I am actually addicted to the game. Other good freeware games are:

Vexed
Prison
SolFree
Bla ckJack
Giraffe - Good for learning Graffiti

For networking I have used mostly:

TriConnect
TuSSH
WifFi

Previous Comment:

I got a new Tungsten E with a hard case and NoviiRemote bundled from best buy in Canada for 254 and change. It was an open item, and it was funny because when I got it was still charged and had someones contacts still in it, but I performed a Hard Reset to clear it and reset the HotSync ID, blah blah blah.

I got it March 10th and have so far had no real problems that weren't my fault (old programs, buggy freeware). However, I have crashed it several times and recently when I tried to open a PDOC (which is the 911 Commission reported I downloaded and it is about 1.1 megs) in WordToGo and it proceeded to stall halfway through opening the file. I did have only about 2 megs of free space which I initially though may have caused the crash but I was able to repeat the problem with a fresh install of only WordToGo after a hard reset.

What was worse was the only thing I could do after waiting an hour for it to move one pixel in the progress bar was reset with the pin hole. After the reset however, I found that my memory was comepletely reset (as if I had hard reset by holding the power button down and then pressing up). Nasy bug that I figure has something to with the way DatViz is creating a working copy of a file to edit in WordToGo.

Also I've noticed that reducing the screen brightness can greatly increase the battery time as well as plugging in the charger unit whenever you can or even the USB which can "trickle charge" the batteries when you turn the power off. Useful in the car with the mobility kit I also purchased which has a 12volt car adapter that uses the USB port (interesting).

Beware of old applications since many, even OS4 programs, can possibly be incompatible, otherwise there are tons of great OS5 apps available. The WIFI card is awesome and using my LAN, I have been able to use Email, WebBrowser, FTP program, ICQ chat program, telnet, SSH, portscanner, all working fast and perfectly through the WIFI connection.

I noticed several comments in reviews on the web, not specifically this one, that the Infra Red port is apparently weak. I mentioned my unit came bundled with the awesome program NoviiRemote. This program almost sold me on the unit when I saw it in the store. This program can learn any remote there is that uses Infra Red, which means most any remote. I tell you, being able walk into bars and change the channels or stores displays, peoples satellites receiver, and PVR's, or A/V stereo's. If a template for a remote doesn't exist yet, all you need is the remote itself and you can one-by-one program every funtion to a button in NoviiRemote. Truly great software.

And as far as Infra Red strength is concerned I have no problem controlling most devices at a distance of about 3 metres or 15 feet. Some devices are "less receptive" than others and I have been unable to program only one remote function, the power button on some RCA remotes. This may have to do with the way NoviiRemote learns IR signals but it generally works great.

All in all I have had a great experience so far with my Palm Tungsten E. The included software is excellent, and the available software on the Internet and on SD cards is another big purchase point. I can't see why someone wouldn't recommend the Tungsten E unless you really want to use it as a cellphone then you may consider more expensive Palm offerings. But at 299 retail in Canada this buy is a steal.

Note I purchased from Palm Store a WIFI SDIO card which was pretty pricey (about $175), and a 512 MB SD card (about $150), so bear in mind that upgrades aren't exactly cheap.

Further Comments:

Buy one if you don't want to spend too much, It's a great handheld for the price. Otherwise the T|5 or the Treo 650 may be a better choice although much more expensive.

53 - Posted by Guest on April 28, 2005 - 10:29 am

I have a Tungsten E which I use in my classroom. Myself and another teacher use ours everyday 5 periods a day. What we have found is our on button is worn out, we have to use the other buttons on the front. Is this common could this be fixed?
Elizabeth, PA

54 - Posted by SteveB on March 24, 2006 - 11:12 am

I got a Tungsten e about a year ago, and it went belly-up after an overnight refresh on the charger. Won't turn on.
After hearing about others with battery problems and unrelaibility, I won't buy another, and I'm hesitant to get a newer Palm model.

-sigh.

55 - Posted by CTM420 on March 25, 2006 - 8:37 am

SteveB,

Mine has been great, no issues with reliability for me except that as the guest above mentioned, my power button broke too. I was able to get the mainboard replaced and now it's like a new device again. I think I like it even better than the newer E2, which I had bought but brought back after I got back my repaired TE.

Edit: Silly me, I forgot the simplest question. Have you tried a soft-reset (http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE?New,...))?

If that doesn't get it to turn on then yu may have a serious hardware or even still possibly a software issue beyond your control.

If your still within the first year since you purchased it then it's likely still covered by the Palm warranty, I would call them.

PalmOne, Inc. Customer Service:

Tech Support: 877 226-2326 - I would start here
Sales & Service: 866 260-2178 - In case you need it

support@palmone.com
- they will just email back and tell you to call them BTW, but it starts the support process going in "the system" at Palm.

Good luck wth it!

56 - Posted by Kirstan on November 19, 2007 - 5:31 pm

Okay, I had all of my notes in my palm pilot, but not hot synched with my computer. My battery ran dead after leaving the divice at school for three days. I lost all of my power causing it to lose all of my programs and all of my notes.
Could someone please tell me if it is possible to restore my files?
(remember they ARENT hot synched)

Thanx!

Kirstan

57 - Posted by Kurtis on November 19, 2007 - 7:27 pm

Nope... with Palms you have to synch them to make sure you have a hard copy of your data. Once the battery dies on a Palm you lose everything. This has changed with some of the newer ones, at least with the Palm Treo 650 the battery can die and I don't lose anything. Sorry. :(

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