GFX Card Wars

[Kardon]

I have a GeForce3, never tried ATI's.

[DnD]

GFX? Pah who needs one of those when you got an ATI that rocks ATI Radeon 9500 pro, it meets all of my gaming graphicly enhanced needs :D

[fhetw]

new nvidia cards come on either this month or next month
NV35 series. supposedly can compete with the 9800pro, but i doubt it since it is basically a tweaked fx

[ELiTE KiLLaH]

i think aroud mid may is what ive been hearing...
of course it could all just be babble...

[Brian]

They probably just overclocked it and slapped an even BIGGER heatsink on it that take up not 2, but 3 PCI slots.

[Dark Maverick]

I have an ATi 8500 LE right now, i plan on upgrading in september/august time towards the R400..

[handrail]

DnD,

have you overclocked your ATI 9500 pro? i know it is possible to overclock the 9500s, just haven't met anyone who has.

[DnD]

whats overclock mean?

[Kurtis]

rofl are you serious? If you are serious, overclocking is pulling more juice out of it than it i smeant to. You do this by supplying more power to it, with my Nvidia I can do this via software.

[DnD]

yes I was serious :shock:
but no I haven't overclocked it...if ye tell me how I'll try it out and see what happens.

[fhetw]

9500pros can be o/c past 9700pro sometimes
i use winfox dunno if it works on ati though

[Kurtis]

search on google for "Overclock ATI 9500Pro" you should get lots of results

[ELiTE KiLLaH]

if its a built by ati, i am almost positive you will hafta flash the bios to a "hacked" one that allows overclocking

serach for rage3d tweak or something or other
if it lets you overclock, woohoo
if not, then d/l the "hacked" bios here (http://www.3dchipset.com/bios/ati/warp11/index.php)

(if you somehow fubar the card, dont flame me ;) )

[Kurtis]

rofl. i love the im not responsible if you fubar it :-p

[ELiTE KiLLaH]

rofl. i love the im not responsible if you fubar it :-p

lol
just covering me own arse ;)
ive done it many times before
but that isnt to say something could go wrong

just make sure the power doesn't cut out mid flash heh

[DnD]

I decided not to cause I would have to reinstall alot of junk and i'm to lazy atm so nah :P

[handrail]

yeah DnD, just wondered how 1337 you were when it came to the vid card. i am un1337 myself in that arena. thanks for your input.

all the info i could find on overclocking seems a bit too risky for me. i hate flashing the BIOS on my mobo, let alone on the vidcard.

i am looking at the 9500 pro for my next card. seems like it stomps the ti4200 in most games at the res that i play at. currently i have a gforce2 mx400, the onboard one from asus (a7n266-e). not bad for games like half-life and the mods and it handles ut2003 pretty well. but i am draggin on SoF2 and the other quake engine games, and don't get me started on GTA3...argh toooo slow.

[DnD]

yeah DnD, just wondered how 1337 you were when it came to the vid card. i am un1337 myself in that arena. thanks for your input.

all the info i could find on overclocking seems a bit too risky for me. i hate flashing the BIOS on my mobo, let alone on the vidcard.

i am looking at the 9500 pro for my next card. seems like it stomps the ti4200 in most games at the res that i play at. currently i have a gforce2 mx400, the onboard one from asus (a7n266-e). not bad for games like half-life and the mods and it handles ut2003 pretty well. but i am draggin on SoF2 and the other quake engine games, and don't get me started on GTA3...argh toooo slow.

Hope you weren't serious about me being leet :P :P
:shock:
Seriously time to change the Vid card my man....either get the ATI 9500, 9700, or 9800 pro or no pro either way will do good. Or get the nice but non ATi :? Gforce4 either one of those will fullfill you're graphics enhanced gaming needs ;D

[handrail]

DnD, glad to know that there are other u|\|1337 g4m0rz out there too. :D

i think the 9500 has stolen my heart. been doing some research (the link posted from viperlair really helped, thx guys :wink: ). although, the asus ti4200 got some great reviews as well. gah, decisions decisions..

i have really liked nVidia's stuff and the nforce chipset is great. but ATI's cards seem to kick butt for only about $30-40 more. i think i can swing that.

as far as overclocking, the dude at viperlair seemed to have a time of it too, so i think i will avoid that mess all together.

w00t!!1

[DnD]

dude believe it or not but I think i've found a video card that out matches them all hold on let me check the magazine I have out for it...
Yes my friends believe it or not I have found a better video card that wipes out the Famous GeForce 4x AA this video card is *gasp* called Parhelia 16x Fragment AA...this baby makes the video card look like a day old salad for lunch when what you really want is that good looking sandwitch over their...looking for site that has this baby hold please...
http://www.matrox.com/mga/home.htm
Bask in the aweness that is Parhelia :P

[Kurtis]

drool. i wonder how that thing performs compared to a 9700 or something...
I just emailed Matrox, maybe they will let us review one. Cross your fingers.

[DnD]

lol its slower then the ATI or Geforce but it renders a whole lot more! lemme see if i can scan this page for u guys

[DnD]

agh sorry scanner on top computer not lower and couldn't get meh mom's durn e-mailer to send it to me its messed up...oh well ;D

[Kurtis]

lol if its slower then it dont matter what it can render :-p
nor for gaming at least

[roblae]

I tried a lot of card out there I had Voodoo2 and 3
N-vidia GF2mx GF3ti GF4ti
and now I have a Radeon9700pro
I hate ATI drivers but I love the performance
BTW: you can SoftMod a 9500non-pro to a 9700pro and have better performance that the 9700pro at half the price

[Brian]

It needs to be a Saphire 9500

[handrail]

needs to be the saphire 9500 to be O/Ced? that's not bad, those are about the same price as a ti4200 or 4600. hmmm, now i must grow ballz large enough to attempt O/C without frying the card.

[caniswolfie]

Right now I think ATI has the upper hand on GFX cards. I've been flip flopping all over place since I've been upgrading my computer.

I started with Nvidia TNT, then TNT2, then GF2 MX, then ATI Radeon AIW, Back to GF4 4400.

I usually pick what's up on top at the moment and I believe that's ATI. Nvidia GF FX is pretty neat, but with the cooling solution and the amount of performance out of the ATI 9700/9800, it's one of things I would go for.

I never count either one out though. I'm sure they are both working on products to keep/get back on top.. gotta love competition.

[tpmeade]

Looks like there is a new performance king.....for now. NVidia GeForce FX5900 Ultra reviews are up. If your waiting for Doom III, looks like this is your card. Though ATI should be dropping in their new card before the game release. It should be a good battle!

[bigapl]

5900 no way 9800pro 256 stomps it all over

[caniswolfie]

It's still pretty close. Its gotten very confusing lately, especially since a lot of people seem to be running benchmarks with high AA settings and anistropic filtering and whatnot. Nevermind at scary resolutions.. :)

I think they are pretty even right now, though I have heard that the drivers for the 256MB version of the ATI card may need a little more maturing though to get better performance.

[tpmeade]

All I know is that I will be getting the best card available at the time Doom III comes out. I have a feeling it will will be ATI, but at the speed they put these high-end cards on the market who knows. The Doom III graphics are insane :shock:

[bigapl]

ati 9800pro should handle it
shoot a 9700pro should

[tpmeade]

I'm thinking that at least one of these companies will have their next generation cards out by the time of the release. The 9800 and 9700 pro will probablly only be a hundred dollars cheaper. My thoughts are if your going to fork out that kind of money anyway, spend the extra $100 dollars. The next generation cards will probably give a good jump in performance.....needed for the eye candy at playable frame rates. What I won't do is spend $500 dollars though....Thats really pushing it!!

[bigapl]

300 max is my limit for anything that sits on my desk

[Kurtis]

lol well i guess you don't want my 700 dollar monitor then huh? 21 visible inches of beauty :)

[bigapl]

is it lcd?

[Kurtis]

hell no, its a viewsonic flat screen CRT. LCDs suck, at least the ones that I have seen do. I do not like ghosting at all, it really annoys me. I play a lot of games, so ghosting is unacceptable for me.