ATI wins bid for next xbox

[m[X]]

woot go ati(canadian) microsoft was getting ripped off by nvidia anyways..nvidia was getting %20 of all microsoft xbox sales just for making the video card

http://news.com.com/2100-1043_3-5063661.html?tag=lh

[deftno9]

fiscally, for ATI, it should be a mixed bag. I heard somewhere that MS actually loses money on each system it sells so the payups to the component co.'s is prob mininal. but overall its a good sign that ATI has taken back the high end market and I hope they keep it up. wit the whole updating drivers thing is behind them ATI's back on top and will prob be my next vidcard purchase :D

[m[X]]

yea its true they are losing money..its ps2's fault..ps2 keeps lowering there prices and xbox has to compete with them..but come this christmas..ps2 will be going nowhere..ps2 is on the downfall now..xbox is the place to be...ps2 doesnt have the performance of xbox

[A Person]

Here's what I heard. M$ was behind sony in the race to put out a new generation console. They knew that if they didn't get into the race now that they would never beat sony in the future. So they built a kick ass console and sold it for a loss just hoping that they can build a much better console than sony next time and then totally dominate the market.

Fontunately for M$ they are making a killing off of XP. 200 bucks for Home edition.

[Kurtis]

in my book xbox has beat out ps2 big time... i don't think xbox is bad at all. however it would be nice if for 300 bucks you would actually get a faster system with more memory and storage space. What is the proc in the xbox? Like 500mhz or something?

[ELiTE KiLLaH]

733 i believe

[hone]

yeah what elite killah said, 733 P3 iirc. As for the ATI / nvidia I still am probably going to purchase nvidia over ati just b/c I've had better experience w/ nvidia in the past and on nix. ATI doesn't release drivers as consistently and I'm not going to support a company that doesn't keep their drivers on par. As for xbox, they have the funkiest controllers. It's lik the penny arcade w/ the xbox bear controller :-D. I guess I'm anti M$, but I don't think the xbox is that great of a console. Then again I don't think any console these days are that great. Nothing on the console can replace the experience of playing mulitplayer games w/ a keyboard and mouse on a computer that you hand built.

[Brian]

I don't think any console these days are that great. Nothing on the console can replace the experience of playing mulitplayer games w/ a keyboard and mouse on a computer that you hand built.

I hear that!

I hate trying to play shoot-em-up style games on consoles. Halo, Splinter Cell... Soooo much better on PC. You can actually aim. (of course I'm not referring to Halo on PC... yet. *shakes fist at MS*)

[Kurtis]

yeah i hate that yoystick control crap... so annoying, i cant aim with that damn thing. MS should have made it so xbox could use keyboard/mouse. after all it is basically a focking computer... silly MS

[Rich]

Besides, if you saved the money you spent on a Xbox and some games, you could buy a wicked video card anyway! :D

[hone]

amen.

[MaNiAk21]

Bah, I can aim with dual analog just fine, takes a while to get used to at first... but so did mouse control if you can remember that far back. :) Yes, computers are more efficient but I loves my PS2, loves it. :P

[A Person]

My fav console all time is N64. Goldeneye was the best. Even though 1st person shooters are a bitch to control with a game pad, the enemy AI wasn't that great so they couldn't shoot for shit either. I still play N64 more than any other console (although most of my time is spent on my puter)

[EmoMakesMeCry]

ive never been much of a console gamer, but goldeneye was awesome. i'd play that for days straight...

[MaNiAk21]

If you liked Goldeneye(who the hell didn't), then you would be VERY intesrested in Timesplitters 2, it has been hailed as the 'new-Goldeneye' and is really great. It was created by members of the original GoldenEye team and the dual analog control is a bit better than the N64's d-pad and joystick play. :P

[Rich]

Gran Turismo on PS1. nough said. :D

[A Person]

Is timesplitters 2 for xbox? Sorry, dumb question. I don't have an xbox.

I let my friends waste their money and then take advantage of it. :D

[hone]

uhm, goldeneye? Eh, I never liked it. I mean..it was pale in comparison to quake 1 in gfx and gameplay and just nastiness. 16 player fragfests, golden got nothing. OpenGL glory on Voodoo. Mouse getting used to? Uhm, not nearly as long. How can you beat the mouse + kb combo for any fps? The controller doesn't have enough buttons speed. Say you have to flick around 180 to kill someone and stuff, just isn't as good. Plus the kb has so many more keys than any controller out there. Gimme mah RL and in q2+ Railgun + RL.