fridge watercooling

[sunnyb4u]

hi there guys

i was wondering i am new to watercooling, and i wanted to know since the cost of watercooling kits are pretty expensive, will i be able to run my pc in my spare fridge. i ask this as i want better performance from my machine and will i have to take the heatsinks off the processor, gpu and nb off?

[IronSight]

You'll talking about putting your case in a fridge?

[Rich]

There is a high risk of condensation with putting warm components into a cold environment. Also, I doubt you would really do much to improve the cooling of your computer. Water cooling if far more effecient since it cools only the parts that need it. Ambient air cooling will just burn out the fridge faster.

[Kurtis]

well... it would have an effect on the cooling, as the fridge air would be much much cooler, but condensation is a BIG thing to worry about if you stick a PC in a fridge

[IronSight]

Why not sure take your fridge apart, and steel the VCM out of it. Find the thermocouple, and get some tubbing and route the cold air into your case and out again.

[Rich]

Now THAT would be interesting

[sunnyb4u]

now that i would do likely i have a coolermaster staker case so i can fit it in nicely

[sunnyb4u]

can i just liek pipes from the fridge into the side of my stacker case and or can i put one of the pipes on the cpu heatsink to suck air out and on the other side of the heatsink put a pipe for cold air into the system would this cool my sistem i woul like to overclock my p4 3.2 to excess of 4ghz but at the mo i can only overclocking on standard cooling my chip from 3.2 to 3.8 with no temperature rises it stays below 40 degrees celcius including when i play cs source

[Rich]

If you are going to go to all the work of messing with the frsge pipes, you might as well just buy a water cooling system. Ruptering any pipes in a fridge could be dangerous since most refridgerators use a gas/liquid coolant. The best thing to do would be to set up some liquid cooling and then place the radiator in the fridge.

[IronSight]

Yeah, you'd wanna be extra cautious when playing with the VCM in your fridge. It most likely contains Freon 12, or 22 which is labelled harmless but if mixed with water, turns into Hydrochloric Acid, if heated whatever-so-ever, turns into phosgene gas (Mustard Gas), and it's so cold, it would give you instant frostbite. But other than that, it's totally harmless. :-P

[Rich]

... But other than that, it's totally harmless. :-P

As are most chemicals, unless you piss them off or look at them funny

[BioNiKaL]

Actually your all wrong, putting the components into the fridge and sealing it would work perfectly fine with no condensation. (HEATSINKS STAY ON!) only when you open the fridge door will you get condensation

[mike]

Yeah, you'd wanna be extra cautious when playing with the VCM in your fridge. It most likely contains Freon 12, or 22 which is labelled harmless but if mixed with water, turns into Hydrochloric Acid, if heated whatever-so-ever, turns into phosgene gas (Mustard Gas), and it's so cold, it would give you instant frostbite. But other than that, it's totally harmless. :-P

I dont know where you get this bullshit, but none of the reactions mentioned will work or happen. Mustard gas is far from phosgene (mustard gas contains sulfur freon 12 doesn't). Freon doesn't react with water unless uv light (generation of radicals) is involved. Stop believing stuff you read on the interent and in anarchist cookbook.

BioKinAl is almost right....

"Actually your all wrong, putting the components into the fridge and sealing it would work perfectly fine with no condensation. (HEATSINKS STAY ON!) only when you open the fridge door will you get condensation"

You only get condensation when water vapor is present. yes cooling air results in lowing the dew point of water vapor, and thus you get condesation. Since you remove water vapor from air by condesation, more vapor is introduced when you open the door to air with more water vapor. You can freely open the door if the surrounding environment is mosture free (aka vacuum, dried air).

--Mike mc.

[Brian]

You tell ‘em Mike!

There is a lot of misinformation regarding computer cooling, especially with water cooling. I don't think too many people stick their computer in a fridge so that isn't a big deal but I would think most people would learn this kind of stuff in high school physics.

But I guess physics isn't a required course; I think they also offered integrated phys/chem as a easy alternative to actually learning. I blame the education system :-P

[IronSight]

I dont know where you get this bullshit, but none of the reactions mentioned will work or happen. Mustard gas is far from phosgene (mustard gas contains sulfur freon 12 doesn't). Freon doesn't react with water unless uv light (generation of radicals) is involved. Stop believing stuff you read on the interent and in anarchist cookbook.

BioKinAl is almost right....

"Actually your all wrong, putting the components into the fridge and sealing it would work perfectly fine with no condensation. (HEATSINKS STAY ON!) only when you open the fridge door will you get condensation"

You only get condensation when water vapor is present. yes cooling air results in lowing the dew point of water vapor, and thus you get condesation. Since you remove water vapor from air by condesation, more vapor is introduced when you open the door to air with more water vapor. You can freely open the door if the surrounding environment is mosture free (aka vacuum, dried air).

--Mike mc.

Well, when it came to VCM systems in aircraft, that's what I was taught in school as a basic understanding of the dangers surrounding them. But thanks Dr. Asshole. :-) :P

I know nothing of commercial refrigeration components or computer cooling equipment, I was just trying to assist with the topic.

[Dyrewolph]

But I guess physics isn't a required course; I think they also offered integrated phys/chem as a easy alternative to actually learning. I blame the education system :-P

I studied Physics AND Chemistry in two seperate subjects... I can't remember a damn thing from either *grin*

[mike]

I just hate chemophobia. I like to put a lid on it and dispell rumors of fun stuff that should happen with chemicals, but doesnt. (Like those warning labels you see plastered everywhere. So if someone got their hands on freon and tried mixing it with water or tried making mustard gas that they would be sorely dissapointed.

[Rich]

. But thanks Dr. Asshole. :-) :P


How did you know that is what we call him???

[mike]

cant you read the title... its Dr. Dumbass. Reading is a prerequisite for the forums.

[Kurtis]

cant you read the title... its Dr. Dumbass. Reading is a prerequisite for the forums.

lol i forgot i gave you that custom user title... haven't noticed it after i made it, but now that i see it again it still cracks me up :-D