As of tomorrow, Nvidia plans to drop the prices of Geforce GTX 280 and 260. The reason for this sudden price cut is that the cards are not selling as well as Nvidia expected. The second part of the story is that Radeon HD 4870 ended up better than Nvidia had hoped.
Nvidia will cut $90 off the Geforce GTX 280 price-tag, but this is Nvidia's price to partners and we are not sure just how much this will affect the suggested e-tail price. We are sure that end user prices will also drop, but probably a bit less than $90.
It would be pretty sweet if NVIDIA figured out a way to cut the power consumption of the cards as easily as the prices. I mean, it's as if a disembodied voice whispered into the ears of power supply manufacturers, "If you build it, they will come." Suddenly, that 750W PSU seems a little cramped, and people are pricing out kilowatt units. With NVIDIA and AMD/ATI duking things out, seems like Seasonic and the rest are getting as great a deal as the customers.
What's really impressive is that it seems like price tags are equaling performance across the board now. That just seems backwards.
Extra: it's a bigger price cut than that.
AMD GPG (ex-ATI) is binning the parts to a lowest denominator required for good yields and a level of performance that reaches or sometimes overtakes Nvidia’s GTX 260. But this time around, the company developed an AIB/OEM-only product codenamed "Super RV770", which will be much more powerful.
The "Super RV770" will arrive with pre-installed water-cooling and features unlocked BIOS, which enables the GPU to be pushed all the way to 950 MHz, while the memory can be pushed to 4.8 GT/s (1.2 GHz QDR). According to our sources, you may be able to push the GPU even beyond 1 GHz, if you use TEC elements, and keep the temperature of GPU low.
About the only bright side I can see for this is that it means we're going to start seeing some hefty factory-overclocked HD 4870s, even if Super RV770 isn't likely to see the likes of Newegg's shelves. This is both cool and sad.
I wonder, though, has AMD sacrificed too much for OEMs? What do you people think?
This time we have something not-so-serious for all the modders out there with broken HDD(s).
I had some dead HDDs lying around and I started wondering what could I do with them. After opening one and testing if it still run, I couldn't resist scratching the spinning disk with a screw driver...
This is one step away from being a weapon.
Gads, I have at least three dead hard drives; there's got to be a way to harness their neodymium power and produce a spinfusor! I mean, they probably won't explode on contact, but they gotta at least be able to put out an eye! Alright, you handy modders, I task you all to make a viable spinfusor that fires actual hard drive platters. It had better be intimidating, and I'll bet Kurtis has a prize for such an awesome device.
you know what a spinfusor is, right kurtis?
 Eighteen months ago when nVidia's GeForce 8800 GTX was king of the hill, a multi-GPU setup was either ostentatious and reserved only for the most die hard gamer if you were using a high-end card, or downright silly if you were pairing up midrange and lower. NVIDIA's SLi initiative, started back with the GeForce 6 series, was basically a kludge designed to wring that last ounce of performance out of the cards of the era for the deep-pocketed enthusiasts. ATI's CrossFire, when it debuted up until the release of the Radeon X1950 Pro, was an embarassment, offering poorer performance and compatibility than NVIDIA's solution.
Flash forward to present day, and the advent of Windows Vista coupled the GeForce 8800GT and Radeon HD 3800 series has completely changed the game. NVIDIA's formerly industry standard drivers are now being beta tested on the consumer with each new release and resulting in stability problems in Windows Vista, and a merged AMD/ATI is fighting tooth and nail to stay in the game after the disastrous launches of the Phenom and HD 2900 lines. With the release of the HD 3800s, ATI had no intention of fighting NVIDIA's top end with a single monolithic GPU having learned their lesson from the 2900, and shifted their focus to producing cooler, cheaper, more efficient GPUs and attacking the price/performance market. Not just that, but to compete with NVIDIA's top end and empty the pockets of the die hard enthusiasts, ATI shifts their high end focus to running GPUs in tandem. The result? A rejuvenated, revitalized CrossFire.
I agree with everything in this review. I really can't fault it in any way. So I'm going to pick on the web design. The banner at the top, fine, you do what you gotta do. Those objects on the left? Wow, way to work the low-contrast gradient. Your mom tell you to do that? White and blue was dead back in 1998. There are no points for retro HTML, not even for the blinkinest of tags. Don't look now, but FrontPage is laughing at you.
the above image is the faint. i'm just listening to the faint, it doesn't have to do with video cards
Bring Your Box of e-Junk to Office Depot @ ExtremeTech
Here is how the program works. Customers will choose from three available recycling boxes, sizes Small ($5), Medium ($10), and Large ($15), pack it with as many acceptable items as will fit, and take it to the nearest Office Depot store. From there the old tech trash will travel to a reprocessing facility and be turned into "tomorrow's resources."
There's gold in them thar cell phones @ Reuters
It's called "urban mining", scavenging through the scrap metal in old electronic products in search of such gems as iridium and gold, and it is a growth industry around the world as metal prices skyrocket.
I mean, their name is practically "the Office Despot". And all this time you thought you were being clever.
On the other hand, I've got mad junk floor to ceiling in my office. Assuming I get my act together, I'll totally take advantage of it. God knows I've tried eBay, but it's pretty hard to sell an office's worth of crap after it gets blasted into magic smoke by thundersnow.
Thanks in large part to this code sharing, we are seeing same-day support for the Radeon HD 4850/4870. If you buy a Radeon HD 4850/4870 today, you can go use it on Linux right away! They've actually been running the RV770 under Linux for about eight weeks now, which then gave them the idea and allowed them time to ship this driver to consumers via the driver CD included with the retail graphics cards. For the record, NVIDIA has never included Linux/FreeBSD/Solaris drivers on the disk with their graphics cards. While we would recommend always downloading the latest display drivers, this is a significant step forward and does reaffirm their commitment to the Linux operating system.
There's nothing I can add that's better than the insights the Phoronix guys have, but I will say this: having the drivers on the CD means the difference between getting your build going and giving up completely in the face of nothing else working right off the bat.
But if this keeps up, gets a little backwards-compatibility lovin', AMD + ATI will be the defacto Linux hardware. And the hardware's in the right price bracket when the OSes are free.
Nvidia has 9800 GTX+ : 55nm G92 @ bit-tech.net
The current 65nm 9800 GTX will also drop in price below the new 9800 GTX+ to $199, and so we expect the rest of the lower card SKUs like the 8800 GTS 512, 8800 GT and G94 based 9600 GT to also drop in price too! However, Nvidia wouldn't confirm this with us yet. Since the 8800 GTS 512, 8800 GT have already reached end-of-life, and even the 9800 GTX is reported to have followed recently this doesn't seem too far fetched as people already try to clear stock, just a short couple of months after it was launched.
Radeon HD 4850 & GeForce 9800 GTX+ Review @ Firing Squad
As its name implies, the GeForce 9800 GTX+ is an improved version of the original GeForce 9800 GTX. The GPU itself is based on TSMC’s smaller 55-nm manufacturing process, and the 9800 GTX+ runs at higher clock speeds than the GeForce 9800 GTX: 738MHz on the graphics core versus the original 9800 GTX’s 675MHz. Meanwhile, the stream processors run at 1836MHz, an improvement of 148MHz over the 9800 GTX. The memory clock speed remains unchanged at 1.1GHz.
NVIDIA to AMD: Chew on GeForce 9800 GTX+ @ PC Perspective
Sure, you've already heard the news (and probably seen reviews) of AMD's Radeon HD 4850 and 4870 card - we'll have our own review ready very soon. NVIDIA apparently got the news as well and decide to try and put some additional pressure on AMD to perform. The answer: GeForce 9800 GTX+. What the hell?
So this card is definitely going to be faster than an 8800 GTX or Ultra, and cost $200. How cool is that? Let's hope it's quiet, though. The 9800 isn't that great when it comes to efficiency.
Pricing Update:
GeForce GTX 280: $649
GeForce GTX 260: $399
GeForce 9800 GTX+: $229
GeForce 9800 GTX: $199
GeForce 8800 GT 512MB: $169
GeForce 9600 GT 512MB: $149
We learned a great deal, about how Intel, NVIDIA, and AMD arrive at their reported numbers, but more importantly that each company arrives at their final results just a little differently. We will get into that subject matter and more in our first specific power consumption article. As for today, we are going to provide some quick results based on our current testbeds utilizing the AMD 780G, NVIDIA GF8200, and Intel G35 chipsets.
That's, of course, not a great lead, but enough of a difference to keep things competetive; an Intel processor might consume less power by itself, but obviously, the AMD platform still only sips its gin 'n' juice.
the above image the results of the search terms "sippin gin juice" and serves as a reminder of the great american pastime: rollin' down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice, laid back.
[with my mind on my money and my money on my mind]
Get your complete GTX280 scores here @ the Inquirer
Because we are free of Nvidian handcuffs, we can publish all of this early. It kind of sucks to have to wait, so we won't. That's what you get for signing NDAs, which is why we don't. This is edging dangerously toward poetry, so lets just end it here and pass the savings on to you. Enjoy.
ZOTAC GTX 280 AMP edition full review @ VR-Zone
the next issue is with AA scaling. The 3870x2 scores higher than the GX2 in crysis with 4x AA enabled, (as seen in the above link), yet in these benchmarks, it falls even behind the 8800gt! There are sooooooooooooooooo many more stupid numbers throughout the rest of the benchmarks, just compare these numbers to the numbers in the above techreport review.
Power Consumption Tests For GTX 280 SLI @ VR-Zone
We did some power draw tests on the GTX 280 cards in single and SLI mode on a QX9650 + 790i SLI setup. With single GTX 280 card, the system is drawing 147W at idle and 292.2W at peak and the 3DMark Vantage score is P10324. With GTX 280 SLI, the system is drawing 190.1W at idle and 508W at peak. The 3DMark Vantage score is P15813. Stay tuned for our full review in a few days time.
Fake or not, here comes the return of the six hundred dollar card. I'll only be really excited if the sponsors are fast and loose sending out review samples, heh. Honestly, take these results with a shaker, because they're either rumors or too early to compare with the meta-review about to flood the tubes. But man, the Inquirer's review seems to be legit. We shall, as they say, see.
AMD is going to play price/performance @ Nordic Hardware
When we presented you with a slide saying the RV770 core sports 800 shaders and not 480 like most people believed, it was met with a certain amount of skepticism, which is very understandable as many of the larger news sites have been reporting 480 shaders, although without presenting any proof for it. We know now that the rumor of 480 shader processors was planted by AMD and that RV770 indeed has 800 shader processors. We also know that AMD is aware that the RV770 as a single core is not enough to match the GT200 core from NVIDIA. Not surprisingly, AMD is going to play its trump of price/performance, but that doesn't mean that there's no raw performance to play with.
AMD’s physics secret revealed: It’s Havok @ Tom's
AMD had to find an answer to Nvidia’s Ageia acquisition and the conversion of the PhysX engine into CUDA. We knew that AMD’s graphics team was up to something, since the manufacturer was highlighting “game physics processing capability” in its RV770 launch materials. Now we know, since AMD just announced a partnership with Havok. In case you are wondering: Yes, that is the same company that Intel acquired last year and now is a subsidiary of the blue team.
Vision Tek 4850 review @ Xtreme Systems
Today we will be looking at the Visiontek HD 4850 512MB Video card. First off I would like to thank FXvideocards for supplying me with a review unit, as you can imagine it hasn't been easy, but they never let that stop them before.
It's as though the halo effect of having the best flagship card isn't really an issue anymore. It's like people have learned to read, and are willing to invest time with their newfound literacy and read hardware reviews. That said, GTX 280 is leaking up to be one hella fast card...
GTX 200 finally officially priced @ Expreview
The official suggested pricing to manufacturers is the following:
o GeForce GTX 280 - $649
o GeForce GTX 260 - $399
Geforce PhysX driver comes after GTX 280 @ Fudzilla
According to current plan, confirmed by high-ranked Nvidia executives, a driver that will drive PhysX on Geforce 8 and 9 GPUs will come at least a few weeks after announcement of GTX 280. Geforce GTX 280 and 260 are about to launch next week, but the PhysX driver will follow a few weeks after. Nvidia simply wants to be ready, and as you know Nvidia uses its CUDA marchitecture to make this possible.
I am so happy, I can't wait to stick three 225W cards into my machine. It's going to be freakin' nuts awesome. Physics for a mere $1950! No, I have to admit, this is cool stuff, but I can't not mention that end-user physics is just eye candy. Until it gets done server-side, and packetized, the many multiplayer games that will undoubtedly show off this technology best will only look better, not actually use physics to affect gameplay. But it's a step, and I'm looking forward to it.
In order to make this article possible, we teamed up with Scan, who gave us free rein to order what we wanted to order from its online store. The components we ordered were delivered off the shelf in much the same way that any paying customer would have experienced. We challenged ourselves to build a complete PC designed with the gamer in mind for about £400 (including VAT) and it would include our choice of operating system, but excluded the keyboard, mouse and monitor.
The reason for this is that they're generally considered to be very personal items and we could go on forever finding the right mix of keyboard, mouse and monitor for everyone — and truth be told, there isn't an all-encompassing answer for the best of these components on a budget. It's something we felt we should reserve for another article, at the very least.
With this in mind, off we went to Scan's site and found what we could do with just £400 in our pockets...
With regards to the title, I just don't know how to make the pound sign show up. On my laptop, I've got a Euro key, but it doesn't do anything. It also has one alt and one alt gr key. What the Hell is a grr key for? It's too small to be pounded in frustration. It must be there just to frustrate.
Bill Henriksen, the manager of the McMurdo base station, said nearly 16,500 condoms were delivered last month and would be made available, free of charge, to staff throughout the year to avoid the potential embarrassment of having to buy them.
The base only has a skeleton staff through the long winter.
"Since everybody knows everyone, it becomes a little bit uncomfortable," Henriksen told the Southland Times newspaper.
That's 132 days of condoms assuming each person uses one a day. I can see a lot of Comic Book Guys lining up to go to Antarctica...
Incidentally: Ramesses had more than a hundred kids, and the Trojans slipped a bunch of little dudes through the gates. I'd be more inclined to buy, like, Donner's Prophylactics or maybe Challenger Condoms.
when you want a launch to fail, challenge it!
It's like clockwork with Intel; around six months before the release of a new processor, it's sent over to Intel's partners so they may begin developing motherboards for the chip. It was true with Northwood, Prescott, Conroe, Penryn and now Nehalem. And plus, did you really expect, on the eve of the two year anniversary of our first Core 2 preview, a trip to Taiwan for Computex without benchmarks of Nehalem? In the words of Balki Bartokomous, don't be ridiculous :)
Yeah, and even though it's late in the coming for Intel, I think they're moving too fast. This doesn't have to do with me supporting the underdog (I do, though) but rather the forced march that everyone else is impressed into to keep up with Intel. Chipset manufacturers can ramp up production, advance their development schedule, but the one group that can't possibly be sped up, and is more likely to lose efficiency, is the programmers. Sure, we'll all have boss hardware, and not a single God damn working driver to run with.
Back when the ticks and tocks were all just MHz escalation, no one was affected by Intel's "advances", and technologies like SLI and Cool'N'Quiet got invented. Given that technologies like HybridCF/SLI and automated overclocking are still in their fragile early days, I'm worried that the architecture race will flatten the development race, or more realistically, just delay it all.
Not that Intel can, should, or will change their pace, but there are negative consequences of their rapid expansion.
no but seriously he quoted balki
AMD
AMD's 'Puma' Platform Finally Launches @ ExtremeTech
AMD counts more than 100 different notebook PCs designed to use versions of the Puma platform. "This is double the design wins over any previous mobile launches," Leslie Sobon, director of product marketing at AMD, said in a phone interview. PC makers using Puma chips include Acer Inc, Asus, Dell Inc, Fujitsu Siemens Computers BV and Hewlett-Packard Co, she said... Most will be available in time for the back-to-school shopping season, and some will be available this week.
AMD's Puma prepares to pounce @ the Tech Report
The various components of the Puma platform will be largely familiar to those who know AMD's desktop products, but the big exception here is the new mobile processor design, code-named "Griffin." Griffin is a mix of old and new, combining a pair of K8-style execution cores with Phenom-style glue logic and power-saving measures. The chipset itself is manufactured on AMD's 65nm SOI process, and each core packs 1MB of L2 cache, for a total of 2MB L2 per chip.
Intel
Intel P45 / G45 Express Launch and Technology Preview @ Hot Hardware
Those four products are the G45 Express, G43 Express, P45 Express, and the P43 Express. As implied by this naming schema, these four products are very close in terms of features, capabilities, and performance. The P45 and P43 products are the “high-end†and “low-end†models which do not have integrated graphics support, while the G45 Express and G43 Express are the “high-end†and “low-end†models which do have Intel’s new integrated graphics engine, the X4500 / X4500HD.
Intel Eaglelake Pre-Launch Details! @ Tech ARP
This is confimed information as the Eaglelake chipsets have been in production since the middle of May. Motherboards based on the revision A-2 production silicon have already started shipping although they may not be available at some locales until mid-June. In fact, we saw one of these motherboards just last week. We will have more on this tomorrow.
Intel 4-Series Chipsets: G43, G45, P45 @ Techgage
All three chipsets use the Intel ICH10 or ICH10R chipset, with the “R†variant offering support for a technology called “Turbo Memoryâ€, which we’ll cover in detail later. There appears to be no difference between the ICH10 and the ICH9, except that the manufacturing process has shrunk to 65nm, reducing power dissipation. The northbridges themselves have also been transitioned to a 65nm process, for power savings and heat reduction.
A couple Intel X58 mobos up close and personal @ Tweak Town
Intel has the largest booth here in Nangang hall at Computex Taipei 2008 and they were showing off all their latest goodies including the obvious Atom based netbooks and other related products. On it’s Great Wall of 4 Series Motherboards, we spotted two Intel X58 samples on display to the public.
I know I've been beating a dead horse on this, but Puma needs to deliver the 8-hour laptop. Hybrid CrossFire isn't just icing on the cake, it's more like cheese on the damn pizza, and so far things have been quiet on the Hybrid SLI notebook front. So that was three metaphors in two sentences. Awesome.
And while some might be upset that Intel's already putting 3-series chipsets to bed, aside from performance, I think they were a little half-baked. While they're never going to land SLI, shenanigans aside, 16x + 4x CrossFire was a joke. I'm happy to see that this has been fixed; 8x + 8x is much better. Six! I rule!
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